Profoundly Ugly and Ignorant

Every time  there is a tragedy lately, the mockers and scoffers raise their voices in outrage…

“Prayers don’t work. We need legislation.” This has been many secular progressives’ mantra in response to recent mass shootings in America. On Sunday, after a gunman murdered more than 20 peopleduring a church service in Sutherland Springs, Texas, some of them found proof of the powerlessness of prayer. Here are a few highlights:

People of goodwill can certainly disagree over the merits of gun control legislation, just as we can disagree over how long we should wait after a tragedy to discuss its political ramifications. However, we should all recognize that pointing to a couple dozen warm corpses and saying, “Fat lot of good your Jebus-begging did you” is an act of profound ugliness.

It’s also an act of profound ignorance. For those with little understanding of and less regard for the Christian faith, there may be no greater image of prayer’s futility than Christians being gunned down mid-supplication. But for those familiar with the Bible’s promises concerning prayer and violence, nothing could be further from the truth. When those saints of First Baptist Church were murdered yesterday, God wasn’t ignoring their prayers. He was answering them.

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Categories: Christianity

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  1. The point is that the rest of the world has been waiting for years for your country to wake up and implement some gun controls, therefore, how can we not mock and scoff when your leader says he offers his prayers and says diddly squat about prevention or anything else helpful?

    “When those saints of First Baptist Church were murdered yesterday, God wasn’t ignoring their prayers. He was answering them.”

    I find this is just as bad as mocking the prayers for not working. I would bet my last dollar none of those people would have wanted to die even if they did believe in a heaven. I would also bet that none of them had wanted to test what is unsubstantiated faith in a heaven before a natural death.

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    • Hey Steve,
      You do realize that we live in a world where people kill with knives, swords, bats, and mow down multiple innocent people with vehicles right?
      Isn’t all this behavior already controlled?
      If a person is sick enough and/or their heart is dark enough for them to have a desire to do the unthinkable, they will and there is no control that will prevent them.
      Sin is the problem, not controls, period.
      Beyond your appeal for some kind of gun control, your comment makes unsubstantiated assumptions about people of faith and comes from your profound ignorance of Christianity.
      I have been struggling lately to find the good in people Steve, but I can’t see that you are here to have a discussion in good faith.
      James

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      • James, you are totally wrong, I think you do not want to hear the truth. I am in Australia where we enjoy relative peace with restricted private gun ownership. Just about anyone from the civilised world views your gun policies and the remedies of buying more guns after mass shootings for added protection as being beyond stupidity.

        “If a person is sick enough and/or their heart is dark enough for them to have a desire to do the unthinkable, they will and there is no control that will prevent them.”

        Very true, radicalised terrorists are a fact of life for all of us, however if they have easy access to guns it makes life easier for them or someone with mental issues gets mad or goes off the rails and the house has a gun or many guns and they can take a walk whenever they please to the corner shops and buy a hand gun or an assault rifle while buying the groceries, how more convenient can it be? To have such unrestricted access to an efficiently engineered weapon designed to kill that children can use by simply pointing and squeezing the trigger is for a mentally unstable person or a criminals dream. I do not hear of many children being accidently killed by a kitchen knife or baseball bat compared to negligent firearm discharges.

        I understand that neurology tells us that logic is suppressed when religious issues are challenged, however here we have an issue that directly takes human lives and it cannot be any more important, but again, it appears American Christians love their guns as much as their God because they cannot research the facts and see the clear logic in this.

        It is obvious to the world that the American public are fooled and ruled by the NRA and the firearm manufacturers and it is clear you have a huge problem, where buying more guns and prayers will not be enough to protect you from crazy people with guns and it is a fact that the more guns at easy reach by even more nutters will make it worse.

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        • “I understand that neurology tells us that logic is suppressed when religious issues are challenged, however here we have an issue that directly takes human lives and it cannot be any more important, but again, it appears American Christians love their guns as much as their God because they cannot research the facts and see the clear logic in this.”

          HI Steve. Look you keep doing it, so I will keep challenging it. This is NOT a religious issue. It is just not. That is why your agenda here is absolutely clear. You go present a comment that, while this may shock you, actually has some good common sense. We SHOULD relook at how folks are allowed access to guns. I am cool with that, Or course, they won’t do away with guns here, as our Constitution clearly says we can have them. I am good with that also. Anyway, you make some sense….at first.

          The problem comes when almost without fail, you have to present your tired, trite argument about how neurology has shown that faith impedes logic. Um…that’s false. Um…it’s not related to the issue here. Um….get the point Steve? In case you don’t I will clearly explain. A person’s thoughts on guns and their Christian faith have no relationship at all. You keep drawing a link, which makes it patently obvious and clear that you are not here because your vast and admirable love for your fellow man and desire to see us all live in peace and harmony, but to bash and attack God and the Christian faith.

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          • Wally,
            I think it’s time we start responding to gun control arguments with a fresh, powerful argument. Here it is, in its entirety. Ready?
            “Screw you.” That’s it.
            It’s not exactly a traditional argument, but it’s certainly appropriate here, with someone who has talking points and no facts.
            The fact is that there is no point in arguing with liberal gun-control advocates because their argument is never in good faith. They slander gun owners as murderers. They lie about their ultimate aim, which is to ban and confiscate all privately owned weapons. And they adopt a pose of reasonability, yet their position is not susceptible to change because of evidence, facts or law. None of those matter – they already have their conclusion. This has to do with power – their power.
            You can’t argue with someone who is lying about his position or whose position is not based upon reason. You can talk all day about how crime has diminished where concealed carry is allowed, while it flourishes in Democrat blue cities where gun control is tightest. You can point to statistics showing that law-abiding citizens who carry legally are exponentially less likely to commit gun crimes than other people. You can cite examples of armed citizens protecting themselves and their communities with guns. You can offer government statistics showing how the typical American is at many times greater risk of death from an automobile crash, a fall, or poisoning than from murder by gun.
            But none of that matters, because this debate is not about facts. It’s about power. The liberal anti-gun narrative is not aimed at creating the best public policy but at disarming citizens the liberal elite looks down upon – and for whom weapons represent their last-ditch ability to respond to liberal overreach.
            Put simply, liberal elitists and their blind followers don’t like the fact that, at the end of the day, an armed citizenry can tell them, “No.”
            Sorry if this sounds harsh but it needs to be. Steve has proven time and time again that he cannot or will not have a discussion in good faith. To continue is a waste of time and effort.
            James

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    • Also Steve, you cannot speak as to what believers would or would not want because you are not a believer and therefore cannot possibly understand.

      When we as believers made a commitment to follow Christ, that commitment included sacrificing all and following Him even unto death. For many in Texas they died doing what we believe is the most important thing—worshiping the One in whose arms they now rest.

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      • That sounds dangerous to me James because those people did not need or want to die at the hands of a madman. What makes you think they were all as committed to sacrifice themselves for Christ as you say you are prepared to do? If dying for Christ and heaven was an undisputed reality, I could agree with you and consequently there would be no need to care about guns and random shootings of Christians considering it is Gods will and there would be no reason to grieve and every Christian could look forward to death.

        In the real world I believe it is the duty of all humans to love and protect other humans, therefore, as Heaven and hell are considered as not verified why do you call this murder a sacrifice and why should protection of Christian lives on Earth with gun control be any less important than worshiping Christ?

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        • Allow me to repeat myself.

          When we as believers made a commitment to follow Christ, that commitment included sacrificing all and following Him even unto death. For many in Texas they died doing what we believe is the most important thing—worshiping the One in whose arms they now rest.

          You can think this is dangerous if you want, in fact given your disdain for the faith I would be shocked if you thought anything else, but that is how Christianity works.

          As far as Heaven and Hell not being verified goes, this is up for debate and a matter of faith.

          I believe they exist, you don’t. The only thing I know for certain is that we will both find out whether we were right or wrong one day.

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  2. Yeah…folks get seriously ugly about all of this. Amazing how a tragic incident, which might very well be a sign some better controls are warranted, is still used by the Godless to promote their agenda of anti theism. Sheesh.

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  3. The Secular Left have their Westboro types…

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  4. Reblogged this on Narrow is the way and commented:
    And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. but the one who endures to the end will be saved.

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