Let’s all talk about how Mike Pence can’t be trusted around women

I am a little late weighing in on this shocking news but, better late than never, I guess [emphasis added].

A profile of the vice president’s wife in the Washington Post reveals the couple adheres to strict rules to preserve the sanctity of their relationship.

According to the article, Mike told The Hill in 2002 that he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife. He also will not attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side.

If we lived in a sane world, this would get either no attention at all or only positive attention because respectful, loving, and successful marriages should almost unanimously be considered a good thing. 

Unfortunately we don’t live in a sane world. Instead, we live in a world where lefty websites and unhinged social justice warrior mobs are all too quick to pile on committed Christians they view as backward thinking puritanical zealots who deserve only to be shamed until they drop their Bronze Age dogma and embrace modern reality and “proper” societal norms.

Societal norms that, sadly, replace biblical marriage ideals with casual, self-centered, and ever evolving attitudes that are rooted in nothing more than pop culture opinion and mob mentality emotional hatred of Christianity and its adherents.

I would like to go on record by stating unequivocally that I agree with the Pences and the “strict rules” they have established to protect their marriage because, guess what, marriages need that kind of protection. If you don’t agree then I would argue that you don’t know much about marriage or human nature.

This may come as a surprise to secularists who may be reading this but people, despite what they may tell you, are not all good. We aren’t even mostly good. In fact, the Bible says that all mankind are under the guilt of sin, as a burden; and under the government and dominion of sin, enslaved to it, to work wickedness.

“But not my husband/wife, he/she would never cheat on me, it’s unthinkable, I trust him/her.” Sure, I trust my wife too and she trusts me but that doesn’t negate the need for healthy boundaries, does it? I think the best possible thing for people with a sin nature, even those who swear in all sincerity that they would never cheat on their spouse to do is to purposely avoid situations where falling into the sin of adultery is possible. 

In most case, I would argue, a spouse who wouldn’t cheat in million years ends up in a situation, drinks over dinner on a business trip for example, finds themselves getting comfortable, finds themselves having inappropriate thoughts…next thing they know biology and human nature take over and the unthinkable becomes a reality. This happens and this happens to well meaning people without malice or forethought all the time. If you don’t believe me, talk to any pastor, marriage counselor, or divorce lawyer.
Or, talk to someone who is currently living through the fallout of adultery and ask them what they would have done differently that fateful night. Either they are only sorry they got caught (which would be a rare admission) or they wish they would have avoided willfully putting themselves in a situation that “inexplicably” got out of hand.

In an ironic world where the “stay out of my bedroom crowd” hates Christians who take a stand for biblical marriage, I applaud Mike and Mrs. Pence for their boldness. If more couples lived their lives similarly, the world would absolutely be a better place.

And what of the Pence naysayers and haters? I guess we would be wise to just consider the source(s). Here’s just one example.

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  1. This may come as a surprise to secularists who may be reading this but people, despite what they may tell you, are not all good. We aren’t even mostly good. In fact, the Bible says that all mankind are under the guilt of sin, as a burden; and under the government and dominion of sin, enslaved to it, to work wickedness.
    “But not my husband/wife, he/she would never cheat on me, it’s unthinkable, I trust him/her.” Sure, I trust my wife too and she trusts me but that doesn’t negate the need for healthy boundaries, does it? I think the best possible thing for people with a sin nature, even those who swear in all sincerity that they would never cheat on their spouse to do is to purposely avoid situations where falling into the sin of adultery is possible.
    ^ Love this.

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  2. Absolutely pitiful, isn’t it. And yet these are the same ones who pop pills and guzzle alcohol to preserve their sense of self-worth once the lover of the month has left the apartment without warning. They have no concept of fidelity, praise free-love, and then cry themselves to sleep in the dark corner of a penthouse as they rot in their self-induced loneliness. It’s no wonder they hate people who can be happy without screwing around with every chromosome with two legs. I now drop the mic. Boom.

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  3. I take it James you are talking about those who are not Christians, Perfected in Love and Born Again when you say….. despite what they may tell you, are not all good. We aren’t even mostly good. In fact, the Bible says that all mankind are under the guilt of Sin, as a burden; and under the government and dominion of Sin, enslaved to it, to work wickedness.
    Well the good news is as we can see below this is not what Jesus tells us as Christians, Thankfully we are no longer in Slavery to Sin so no Temptation will be greater than we can bear, These Truths are also confirmed in other Scriptures.
    John 8:34-36 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth everyone who Sins is a slave to Sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you Free you will be Free indeed.
    Romans 6:22-23 But now being made Free from Sin and become Servants to God ye have your fruit unto Holiness and the end everlasting life. For the wages of Sin is death but the gift of God is Eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    1 Peter 2:24 Who His own self bare our Sins in His own body on the tree, that we being dead to Sins should live unto Righteousness by whose stripes ye were healed.
    God also tells us as Christians James that we are not to say we will continue to Sin but that we are dead to Sin because ” as a Man thinks in His Heart so He will do” sad so many claim we will continue to Sin.
    Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto Sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Romans 6 : 1 – 2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in Sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to Sin live any longer therein?
    1 John 2:4-6 He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His Commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His word in him verily is the Love of God Perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk even as He walked.
    Romans 6:5-7 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection: Knowing this that our old man is crucified with Him that the body of Sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve Sin. For he that is dead is freed from Sin.
    1 John 4:17-19 Herein is our Love made Perfect that we may have boldness in the day of judgment because as He is so are we in this world. There is no fear in Love but Perfect Love casteth out fear because fear hath torment, he that feareth is not made Perfect in Love. We Love Him because He first Loved us.
    Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified and made white and tried but the wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand but the Wise shall understand.
    Christian Love Always – Anne.

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    • I am primarily talking about the unsaved here Anne but even Christians can and do fall into sin.

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      • Yes Christians can Sin James before they are Born again and Perfected in Love but as the Scriptures confirm they don’t, when they are, or their not Born Again, not meaning they won’t be.
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        Yes I have also Sinned since becoming a Christian but Thankfully as we know if we do Sin before we are Perfected in Love when we have Heart Repentance Jesus is our Advocate.
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        Where do you think you are now James? as far as I’m concerned I can agree with Paul when he said at one time on his Journey …..
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        Philippians 3: 12-14 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made Perfect but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead I press on toward the goal to win the Prize for which God has called me Heavenward in Christ Jesus.
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        But I seek James with the Lord’s leading and empowering to be able to say the same as Paul one day…..
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        2 Timothy 4: 7-8 I have fought the good fight I have finished the race I have kept the Faith. Now there is in store for me the Crown of Righteousness which the Lord The Righteous Judge, will award to me on that day and not only to me but also to all who have longed for His appearing
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        Blessings – Anne.

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  4. Anne, You make a good point, and I appreciate your desire to be wary of a legalistic mindset. However, I would suggest that the Pences have more than one reason for setting up the guidelines they have. They may or may not feel they need the guidelines for themselves, but as public figures, their approach is simply wise. Because people talk. Why give gossips and a hostile press reason to question their moral integrity and marital faithfulness? I applaud them.

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    • art & life notes, I was not referring to the Pences, what they do in their private and public life is their choice. I was responding to what was said by James below and in his previous Post, it is not True for Christians who are Born Again and Perfected in Love to continue to Sin as confirmed in the Scriptures that I shared in my Comment, please read them and you will see that it is God’s Truth not my own understanding that I’m sharing but I did notice the spaces have been deleted making it harder to read the Scriptures so if wanted I will e-mail them to you if you don’t receive them below with spaces….
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      James’s Comment …..despite what they may tell you, are not all good. We aren’t even mostly good. In fact, the Bible says that all mankind are under the guilt of Sin, as a burden; and under the government and dominion of Sin, enslaved to it, to work wickedness.
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      Blessings – Anne.

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    • The Scripture art & life notes as promised……
      The good news is as we can see below this is Jesus tells us as Christians that Thankfully we are no longer in Slavery to Sin so no Temptation will be greater than we can bear, These Truths are also confirmed in other Scriptures.
      .
      John 8:34-36 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth everyone who Sins is a slave to Sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you Free you will be Free indeed.
      .
      Romans 6:22-23 But now being made Free from Sin and become Servants to God ye have your fruit unto Holiness and the end everlasting life. For the wages of Sin is death but the gift of God is Eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      .
      1 Peter 2:24 Who His own self bare our Sins in His own body on the tree, that we being dead to Sins should live unto Righteousness by whose stripes ye were healed.
      .
      God also tells us as Christians that we are not to say we will continue to Sin but that we are dead to Sin because ” as a Man thinks in His Heart so He will do” sad so many claim we will continue to Sin.
      .
      Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto Sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      .
      Romans 6 : 1 – 2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in Sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to Sin live any longer therein?
      .
      1 John 2:4-6 He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His Commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His word in him verily is the Love of God Perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk even as He walked.
      .
      Romans 6:5-7 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection: Knowing this that our old man is crucified with Him that the body of Sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve Sin. For he that is dead is freed from Sin.
      .
      1 John 4:17-19 Herein is our Love made Perfect that we may have boldness in the day of judgment because as He is so are we in this world. There is no fear in Love but Perfect Love casteth out fear because fear hath torment, he that feareth is not made Perfect in Love. We Love Him because He first Loved us.
      .
      Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified and made white and tried but the wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand but the Wise shall understand.
      .
      Christian Love Always – Anne.

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  5. Wasn’t the outrage just silly? My favorite, Pence is oppressing women by depriving us of “networking opportunities.” Kind of an insult to women, if you ask me. I “networked” my way up the corporate ladder? Sheesh.

    Our own marriage just kind of slid into this naturally. It’s not really a strict rule, it’s just a boundary. I don’t have lunch with men unless we’re in a group or something. It’s not necessarily about slipping off to have an affair either, it’s also about leading people on emotionally or spiritually. A few times I have had guys having relationship issues, they want to talk to me about their wife or girlfriend, and that can be a sticky wicket. They’re vulnerable, it’s real easy to develop dependencies, to start violating boundaries.

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    • It was silly for sure IB. He oppresses women, can’t work with women, and has views that are similar to Sharia Law. Ugh, makes the head spin.

      Funny that this all makes sense to progressives.

      Clintons = Timeless love story
      Wieners = Love conquers all
      Pences = Sick and depraved weirdos

      My marriage slid into this naturally because it’s common sense.

      I have also traveled for work for almost 30 years so I know how common adultery is and it’s shocking. No harm in added protection, I think.

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  6. The irony of this ridiculous fake news story combined with the allegations against Bill O’Reilly and Fox News is stunning. At least one of the claims against Bill O’Reilly occurred over dinner. It reminds me of the C.S. Lewis quote: “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”

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    • I have heard that there are allegations against Fox News but I haven’t really been following the coverage much.
      This raises an interesting point that I didn’t think of before though. If a man has a policy where he is not to be alone with women who are not his wife to the greatest extent possible, he is protecting himself from possible accusations down the road. Not saying the allegations currently in the news aren’t true but these kind of things are often “he said, she said” and very hard to figure out. And, careers and reputations are often irreparably damaged before they are figured out.
      Thanks for weighing in, good comment.
      James

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      • Right–who knows if the allegations are true and no-one in their right mind would defend sexual harassment, but in the current cultural and litigious environment, is it not wise to avoid even the appearance of evil for both men and women?

        I work in Finance and Accounting. What if we applied the same standards in that industry? Isn’t it prudish to have all these old-fashioned accounting controls in place? No need for an independent audit, you can take our word for it. Let’s just keep this little transaction between us, off the books. Actually, that has been done and it resulted in the downfall of a little company in Texas named Enron.

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        • Interesting point JD, I think most people who disagree think the Pences are prudish where I think they are wise.

          Appearance of evil is another important point. I’m sure if Pence was caught dining with a woman, even if it were completely innocent, people would talk and accusations would be everywhere.

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  7. I won’t even e mail a woman not my wife unless she knows
    Flog me now lol
    I dont think such rules are legalistic at all. They only are if i say every body has to do the same.
    Reality is saved believers do sin

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    • I don’t have the same policy with email but mostly because I send and receive so many about work and ministry. Good for you though, as long as it works for the two of you, that’s all that matters.

      The other day a woman we do a lot of volunteer work with stopped by the house to drop off some stuff when my wife wasn’t home and I wouldn’t let her inside. We chatted for a bit on the porch then walked around to the garage and unloaded the stuff.

      Nothing would have happened if she came in, I’m sure but it felt weird and I wanted to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

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  8. The two pictures of the tweet says it all…

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