If I support Trump, I lose my ability to effectively speak biblical truth to a lost and dying world.

If you are a Christian who, like I am, is still struggling with the upcoming election, this article has a lot of good insight. 

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  1. I don’t necessarily agree with everything he wrote, but also don’t discredit all that he wrote. Ok, that will be the extent of my political comments.

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  2. I remember left-leaning Evangelicals telling us to excuse Bill Clinton’s unfortunate tendency to force himself on women because the Bible tells us to forgive, as if we were deciding whether or not he should be allowed to enter heaven, not whether or not he would make a good public employee. It was a shameful sophism when it was said on the left and it is a shameful sophism now that it is being said on the right.
    The Christian right is headed to the same sort of insignificance as the Christian left, and for the same reason: selling their souls to politics.

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  3. Okay, just keep something in mind here, God can use anybody at anytime, even talking donkeys. Christ found me in the midst of some pretty intense atheists, and later when all those TV evangelists where making very public face plants, He used them to bring me even closer to Him.

    So I am absolutely confident of the truth to be found in Romans 8:28, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

    The “religious right,” if such a boogey man ever existed, really is hanging out there, exposing it’s hypocrisy for all the world to see, but that need not be a bad thing. As someone smart recently said, some of us are still religious and some of us are still right.

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  4. I think Altrogge makes a good case. I understand his logic and his decision, and can respect his choice as a man of faith. Thanks for linking to this article.

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    • I think he makes a good case too Susan. Not sure what I will do yet but I am really leaning toward not voting for Trump.

      I really, really, really don’t like Hillary but I don’t think Trump will be anything but marginally better if better at all.

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      • As a woman, I absolutely can’t vote for Trump. Too much hate and disrespect, not enough experience. Weighing the options, I have to vote for Hillary and do a lot of praying that her Christian upbringing will lead her in the right direction.

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        • I agree with you about supporting Trump, I think he is disgusting. That being said, Hillary is as bad or worse for different reasons.

          The only thing that gives me any peace is that God is ultimately in control no matter who wins this election and what happens next.

          Really sad these two are the best America can do.

          I was in the military for 20 years where I was willing to die for this country. I love this country but now it just makes me sad.

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          • Very sad. And yes, the Hope is, God will use either candidate.
            And as someone else said, perhaps He placed both candidates before us to bring us to our knees, to open our own eyes see exactly who we are.
            We must continue to pray and now live for our country and do our best to bring about unity.
            And thank you for your years of service. We must not give up for all you have given us.

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        • Susan,
          I understand a woman’s reluctance to vote for Trump, he is a pig. But, I wouldn’t hang any hope on Hillary or her Christian faith. Is she better than Trump in some ways? Sure. But she is very dangerous and should not be supported.
          Writing for the left leaning Washington Post Marc Thiessen, former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, declared that “Hillary Clinton is a threat to religious liberty.” He began his October 13 column with these two sobering paragraphs:
          In a speech not long before she launched her 2016 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton made a stunning declaration of war on religious Americans. Speaking to the 2015 Women in the World Summit, Clinton declared that ‘deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.’
          Religious beliefs have to be changed? This is perhaps the most radical statement against religious liberty ever uttered by someone seeking the presidency. It is also deeply revealing. Clinton believes that, as president, it is her job not to respect the views of religious conservatives but to force them to change their beliefs and bend to her radical agenda favoring taxpayer-funded abortion on demand.

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          • I’ve read that speech and have taken it a much different way. It has to be taken in context of that “deep-seated cultural codes” and conservative systems and biases to which she referred.
            And the Roe v. Wade issue is complicated, and does not mean someone is for abortion on demand. We as Christians must get away from that kind of thinking. I wrote about this in detail in my post called Women Saving Lives.
            https://susanirenefox.com/2016/07/06/women-saving-lives/

            Anyway, this is the choice I’ve made after much prayer and research.
            I support you and lift you up in your own choice as my Christian brother.

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          • Susan,

            Based on our previous interactions, there is quite a bit we see differently which is good. We are different people from different places who are both fortunate enough to live in a country where differences are not only allowed but encouraged.

            I also lift you up and support you and your choices.

            James

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          • And one more thing, my brother.

            Thank you for enabling both of us to enter into this discussion in a loving, grace-filled and respectful way. I always appreciate that about you. It is a rare quality. I always feel safe being open and honest and vulnerable with you because I know you will always treat me with the dignity of a child of God.

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          • Wow, thanks Susan, that means a lot.

            Grace is something I have been struggling with for years, glad to see someone notice I have some 🙂

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          • lol! We all struggle with it, James. I do notice, and again, I greatly appreciate it. 🙂

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  5. Me? My head is buried in the sand until Jesus comes back

    LOL.

    Good find James, and food for thought

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  6. This dilemma is not the same as Daniel in the Bible, in my opinion. This election is not about making a choice against God, it is about making a choice for our community, our nation, which we all are either a member, or a wrecker. If interested read this post.

    https://rudymartinka.com/2016/06/10/king-solomon-a-lost-vote-slacker-wrecker/

    Regards and good will blogging.

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  7. Sad, but keep in mind that all humans are not perfect and somehow we have to choose which of these two will be a better choice for the future of our nation and posterity. Our nation is currently in debt and being bought out by foreign interests as a result of previous political leaders decisions, Clinton is a past leader,

    Regards and goodwill blogging..

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