Watch this only if you aren’t afraid to lose your faith

It’s 4:00 in the morning as I’m writing this, I’m tired, I’ll be flying all day, I couldn’t think of anything else to write about so…

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A blogger I go to lengths to ignore linked to this blog so, in a moment of sheer boredom, I popped over to see what he wrote and, what do you know, it was a video dedicated to little ol’ me.

Here it is.

So, why was this blog linked to? Why was this video dedicated to me and a few other Christian bloggers?

Because the blogger, as many evangelical atheists seem to, labors under the idea that Christians, if they would only pull their indoctrinated heads out of their backsides and objectively listen to opposing thoughts, would drop Jesus like a bad habit and free themselves from the shackles of religion.

Juvenile acting up and vitriol of my blogging friend aside he has, in a roundabout way, made a fair point in that people absolutely should, regardless of what they believe, spend some time investigating counter claims.

That being said, every Christian who reads this blog should watch this video, in it’s entirety, more than once if necessary. In fact, and if one were really interested in academic due diligence, they should watch the whole debate and not just an excerpt from an atheist YouTube channel titled Sam Harris Absolutely Destroys Christianity.

Really? Did he destroy Christianity?

Hard to tell without hearing word one of what his debate opponent had to say, isn’t it?

I Guess, even in the interest of intellectual honesty, the whole story really isn’t important to people who think Sam Harris demonstrates a “sublime intellectual display of unimpeachable, flawless logic” and his opponent (Dr. William Lane Craig) is just an “arrogant prick.”

Point here, because I’ve been lead to believe blog posts should have one, is this.

Read all the atheist blogs you want, watch all the YouTube videos you want, read Wikipedia (internet atheists love quoting Wikipedia) all you want, and read Harris, Dawkins, Ehrman, Hitchens, et al. all you want but, know this:

If you are willing to be honest, you’ll find that Christianity is overall more consistent with evidence and logic than any other worldview. On that you can be absolutely certain.

Now in case you’re wondering, and why wouldn’t you be, why I ignore the above mentioned blogger.

He and his pals are scoffers and haters Christians should have nothing to do with. A quick read of his blog comments makes that perfectly clear.

“You mean I’ve been wasting my time praying over my pancakes to turn into Elvis?”

“I think I’ve seen this clip before. Craig is an arrogant prick.”

“Excellent points — but if you’ve been around the horn a time or two (which you have, Ark & others), it won’t even begin to penetrate the True Christians ™ mindset. They would rather listen to the ramblings of their favorite dork (Craig), nod their head in agreement, and holler “Preach it, Brother!” then they would to remove their rose-colored glasses and view the “real world” that exists outside of Christianity.”

“if Jesus is real…. he is a liar. When the shit hits the fan and all you have left is Jesus being the ultimate deceiver, you realize that the Devil isn’t the issue, it’s the supposed savior instead. Admitting that my hero for four decades was my most damaging enemy was probably the most painful thing I have ever experienced! This was the greatest betrayal of my life. Judas can’t hold a candle to the using, abusing and damaging let down that is Jesus Christ.”

Added: And this last one, which isn’t as rude or trollish as the rest, represents a common atheistic view of Christians and their intelligence.

“I enjoy this man every time he speaks. The trouble with indoctrinated Christians is they listen but never want to hear what is said.”

I can say I have studied atheism, have examined the work of those who believe differently than I do, etc. But it always comes down to me being mentally deficiency or blinded to ‘real facts’ because I simply don’t want to believe them.

Let me put that last quote another way.

“If you don’t absolutely agree with what Harris says, there is something wrong with you.”

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19 replies

  1. I have watched is several times. The entire premise is, as you said, that if only we had some sense and were not psychotic and/or delusional we would get in and renounce our faith. Not the most compelling argument in the world.

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  2. ‘There’s no reason to believe we live in a universe ruled by an invisible monster.’ (uh sir, therein lies your delusion)

    He then links this with ‘muslims who blow themselves up,’ to somehow ‘connect’ Christianity with other bastards of ‘religion.’ (uh sir, so then by their fruits ye shall know them…………..)

    The guy has ZERO credibility, he knows nothing of Christianity, and the support of his followers (some of your comments posted above) is further proof that there are a few missing doughnuts from the dozen.

    God’s word has never lost an argument, NEVER. Btw, James, good for you to offer some balance, even if it brings mold and mildew from afar……….but we know what spiritual bleach and sunlight can do. 😉

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  3. “When the shit hits the fan and all you have left is Jesus being the ultimate deceiver, you realize that the Devil isn’t the issue, it’s the supposed savior instead.”

    This made me snicker, because the Savior really is the issue, when you encounter the darkness and we all will, He truly is all that matters. People can be so brave, we talk so tough, but when we come face to face with genuine evil, we rethink that pretty darn fast. Jesus Christ is not deception at all, He is truth and He is also Salvation, and the only one who can deliver us from that evil some of us so bravely mock.

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    • IB When the shit hits the fan it may be your Islamic brothers who may be holding your life in their hands asking you to renounce your Christianity. These people may very well be evil and the devils you are afraid of, but how can you be sure, you may ask yourself are these people guided by my own God?

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      • It’s an impossible thing to explain, but I know His voice and I know the voice of the enemy too. It doesn’t matter what you call yourself or who you claim to worship, I simply know His voice and I am not easily deceived.

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        • It’s like following the sound of running water to its source eh ib22? ‘My sheep hear my voice, and they follow me.’

          Of course, all one needs ask himself is HOW he distinguishes light from darkness…….I see the comment threads of they who say they are ‘following’ reason, truth, facts, and history apart from God…….and let me tell ya, some of that stuff is not only unfit for print, and unworthy of speech, but there is a blackness of darkness that can only come from enemy territory.

          ‘Pure’ is a word foreign in that country.

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        • If for arguments sake you are in the situation of renouncing Christianity to save your skin, I know if I was a Christian it would become a serious issue that there could also be another god if not the same god, because Islamic Muslims are just as devoted as Christians and therefore can you safely say 1.57 Billion Islamists must be deceived and worshiping no God?

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          • “I know if I was a Christian it would become a serious issue that there could also be another god if not the same god, because Islamic Muslims are just as devoted as Christians”

            Again, this is a nearly impossible thing to explain, but knowing God is not based on the devotion of other people. Jesus Christ is the truth and the way and the life and our spirits recognize Him, even the spirits of many of those Muslims who have recently been coming to see the Light, too. Yes, I can indeed safely say 1.57 Billion Islamists must be deceived. Having large chunks of the population trapped in deception is nothing new. Nazi’s,communism, Pol Pot, all huge and vile deceptions that required a great deal of devoted followers.

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          • Yes, I can indeed safely say 1.57 Billion Islamists must be deceived. Ahhhh, but who’s to say YOU are not the one deceived?

            There is no way you can verify that you are hearing the “true” voice. It is only because you were “saved” under the umbrella of the Christian faith rather than the Islamic one that you believe your way is the only/right way. Had you been born and raised in a Muslim country, you would see things in an entirely different perspective.

            To you, they are “trapped in deception.” To them, they are worshipping the one true god.

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          • Hi Nan,

            Christianity and Islam have different core beliefs, therfore they are contradictory, therefore, they cannot both be true.

            Now, to your point that I might believe differently had I been raised in a Muslim country. Is that a fact or an opinion that only seems to make sense?

            An objection to Christianity I hear all the time is one that suggests faith is based less on reason and truth and more on geography, cultural influences, and traditions. In other words, if a person were to grow up in America they would likely be a Christian while a person growing up in Baghdad will likely be a Muslim.

            While this argument might seem to have some merit, its true goal is to cast doubt on the truth of Christianity and question the intellectual honesty or intelligence of believers who claim to believe in Christianity based on the truth of its claims.

            Surely, no one can take beliefs that were handed down to them by their parents seriously especially when there are so many religious options, can they?

            While it is true that many people are guilty of clinging to a belief simply because their family or culture is closely tied to it, the Bible explicitly cautions against doing so (Mark 7:8-13).

            The fact that many people blindly cling to tradition says nothing whatsoever about the truth or falsity of their belief. Instead, all it does is speak to the sincerity of the one who holds beliefs without truly “testing” them.

            The apostle Paul warned believers to “test all things; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).

            As Jesus explained: “I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice” (John 18:37).

            Fact: Jesus alone bears truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. In the end, culture, and beliefs that flow from culture have nothing to do with objective reality, nor, as you might be thinking, do they provide different paths to the same place based on the sincerity of believers.

            The principle here is that Jesus, not any particular church or denomination or cultural belief, is the only way to God, (Jn 6:40). Thus, salvation is accessible to everyone and is intended by God for everyone, worldwide:

            “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth!” (Is 45:22)

            I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people…This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all…
            (1 Tim 2:1, 3-6; see also Is 49:6, 52:10, Rev 5:9)

            Indeed, there are people “from every nation, tribe, people and language” who will be saved (Rev 7:9).

            You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:26-28)

            I am convinced that, if all the people in the world were to honestly test their beliefs against the truth claims of Christianity, they would become followers of Christ regardless of where they were born or where they currently live.

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          • I am convinced … . Obviously, that would be your stand because you believe in Christianity and the bible as written by the Jewish people. But I stand by my assertion that if Christianity were not the predominant religion, you (and others) would more than likely follow the religion of your birth (e.g., Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto, etc.)

            You write: While this argument might seem to have some merit, its true goal is to cast doubt on the truth of Christianity and question the intellectual honesty or intelligence of believers who claim to believe in Christianity based on the truth of its claims. I am not trying to cast doubts on anything; there is merit to the argument. The only reason you reject it is because you believe Christianity is the one true faith.

            Christianity and Islam have different core beliefs, therfore they are contradictory, therefore, they cannot both be true. I disagree. To those who worship and believe in a particular religion, for them it is true. You cannot pass judgment simply because you happen to believe another religion is false.

            I’m fully aware of the scriptures about “all the ends of the earth.” But again, this is coming from the book that you (and others) put their trust and faith in.

            All I’m saying, James, is while I may not be a believer (in any religion) and while I may feel those who do follow religious teachings are misguided, I am not the one to judge which religion is correct. And neither are you or any other believer,

            BTW, along these lines, I invite you to visit my blog and click on the “DEAR BELIEVER” page.

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          • Nan,

            I can indeed pass judgment, just as you have.

            I have determined that all faiths but Christianity are false, you have determined all of them are false.

            I may check out your blog since you were kind enough to invite me and may even comment.

            I actually used to visit atheist blogs quite a bit but very rarely do anymore. Maybe yours will be a refreshing change from what atheist blogs usually offer.

            James

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          • P.S. I find it interesting that while my first comment was not moderated, this last one is. What are you afraid of? I’m not attacking you or your religion. We’re just having a discussion in which we come from different sides.

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          • I am not afraid of anything Nan, comments stay in moderation until I free them.

            I spend time in this blog only as I have time so responses and freeing comments is sporadic.

            There are a few people who have been banned and their comments will never appear, you are not one of those people.

            James

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      • Hey Steve,

        Although many people believe they do, Christians and Muslims simply do not worship the same god.

        In the Bible, God reveals Himself to us in many names. These names are His personal property. We did not invent these names for God. To the contrary, God revealed these names as His own.

        We have no right to modify or to revise these names—much less to reject them. Jesus Christ made this abundantly clear. In the simplest way imaginable, Jesus teaches us to know God as Father, and to use this name in prayer. The Lord’s Prayer begins with the words, “Our Father, who is in heaven.” By the grace that God has shown us in Christ, we can truly know Him as Father.

        Muslims do not speak of God as their heavenly Father. In the Islamic faith, Allah is not only a different name for god; the deity it designates is far more impersonal than the God of the Bible. Father—the very name that Jesus gave us as the designated name for use in prayer—is a name that simply does not fit Allah as depicted in the Quran.

        Furthermore, Muslims claim that Allah has no son. This represents a head-on collision between the God of the Bible and Allah. For, as the Bible makes clear, the one and only true God is most perfectly revealed as the Father of the Son, Jesus Christ. In the Gospel of John, Jesus repeatedly teaches that no one has truly known the Father, except by the Son. In one of the most clarifying verses in the New Testament, Jesus declared Himself to be “the way, and the truth, and the life,” adding, “No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).

        Because Muslims deny that God has a son, they explicitly reject any Trinitarian language. From the very starting point, Islam denies what Christianity takes as its central truth claim: the fact that Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father. If Allah has no son, then Allah is not the God who reveals Himself through the Son. How then can calling God “Allah” not lead to anything but confusion—and worse?

        James

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  4. IB and James, I agree that the Nazi’s, communism and Pol Pot had politically indoctrinated many people who blindly followed the ideology, however there are some big differences. The first is that these regimes were led by insane living humans who instigated indoctrination methods and systems to ensure they would retain their power. Violent or not it is politics and the power that drives these leaders and their supporters, it has nothing to do with anything spiritual.

    It is a big claim to say 1.57 Billion Islamists are deceived especially when they claim the complete opposite and when it comes to the son of God.

    Sahih International: Qur’an 9:30 The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah “; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

    I am no expert but of course the Jewish belief is that Jesus was not God’s son and it is contentious as to why the claim of Ezra is made in the Qur’an but of course the whole issue is clouded in thick controversy and confusion as you say James because these three religions claim they have the truth.

    Obviously going back to the question about two separate gods or is this the same God looks to be never resolved for all party’s and it strongly suggests the writers for all three religions were either genuinely confused, misquoted or they interpreted events for reasons unknown.

    I have to ask, without insult of course, does this one of many controversies not make you think seriously about where the story of God came from originally and because individuals constantly swap between Islamic, Christian and Jewish faiths is the concept possible that God is only manifested within an individual’s own mind and spirituality because from the state of affairs we have it looks to be the one and only way it can possibly be resolved peacefully, and this is looking to be very important considering much of the world’s population is involved?

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  5. “I am not the one to judge which religion is correct. And neither are you or any other believer”

    Hmm, well if I don’t judge, who will? Faith actually requires one to judge, and to judge that God is the only one worthy of all praises, that not all religions are created equal. One way we can tell the difference is from the fruit that such faith generates. Jesus Christ saves and transforms lives, he changes entire communities, He heals and comforts those who are hurting.

    “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised..”

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